Can dynamically translated pages hurt a site?
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Hi all...looking for some insight pls...i have a site we have worked very hard on to get ranked well and it is doing well in search. The site has about 1000 pages and climbing and has about 50 of those pages in translated pages and are static pages with unique urls. I have had no problems here with duplicate content and that sort of thing and all pages were manually translated so no translation issues. We have been looking at software that can dynamically translate the complete site into a handfull of languages...lets say about 5. My problem here is these pages get produced dynamically and i have concerns that google will take issue with this aswell as the huge sudden influx of new urls....as now we could be looking at and increase of 5000 new urls. (which usually triggers an alarm)
My feeling is that it could be risking the stability of the site that we have worked so hard for and maybe just stick with the already translated static pages.
I am sure the process could be fine but fear a manual inspection and a slap on the wrist for having dynamically created content?? and also just risk a review trigger period.
These days it is hard to know what could get you in "trouble" and my gut says keep it simple and as is and dont shake it up?? Am i being overly concerned? Would love to here from others who have tried similar changes and also those who have not due to similar "fear"
thanks
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Stumbled upon some additional information and decided to update you...
According to the internationalization FAQ...
Q: <a name="q5"></a>Can I use automated translations?
A: Yes, but they must be blocked from indexing with the “noindex” robots meta tag. We consider automated translations to be auto-generated content, so allowing them to be indexed would be a violation of our Webmaster Guidelines.So if you decide to autotranslate the text, you should use a noindex tag instead of the hreflang tag.
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Considering they offer that service themselves, it would be hypocritical of them to penalize you for doing it. The hreflang tag would also protect you from having those pages marked as spam since you are telling G "Page a the exact same as page å, just in a different language" - avoiding "duplicate" content
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thanks Oleg.....if the site was to get reviewed manually would there be any issues that there are thousands of pages with content being created dynamically?
thanks for your time
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The problem with using a software to translate your content is that it will never be perfect. There will be many grammatical and/or vocabulary errors that would decrease the quality of the content. I'm not sure if Google is able to understand content quality in other languages, but a worse user experience usually leads to worse rankings. Ideal situation, you would have those pages manually translated (but I know it will cost a fortune).
In case you decide to auto translate, be sure to use the rel="alternative" hreflang="x" tag in order to tell Google that you have multiple pages with the same content, except in different languages.
I don't think you should worry about a sudden influx of pages. Ideally, you'd drip feed them in to take advantage of the freshness factor, but you shouldn't be penalized for creating a lot of new pages.
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