Moving articles to new site, can't 301 redirect because of panda
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I have a site that is high quality, but was hit by penguin and perhaps panda. I want to remove some of the articles from my old site and put them on my new site. I know I can't 301 redirect them because I will be passing on the bad google vibes.
So instead, I was thinking of redirecting the old articles to a page on the old site which explains that the article is moved over to the new site. I assume that's okay?
I'm wondering how long I should wait between the time I take them down from the old site to the time I repost them on the new site. Do I need to wait for Google to de-index them in order to not be considered duplicate content/syndication? We'll probably reword them a bit, too - we really want to avoid panda.
Thanks!
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Thanks, I'm actually not concerned about the quality of the articles. I think my old site is in trouble for having too many keyworded backlinks and too many syndicated articles, but the articles themselves are good.
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In the end, there may be 200 articles, so I guess I want to redirect them to 1 other page on the old site rather than changing the 200 pages to all say the same thing.
So you think it's bad even to have links from the old site to the new site? I wouldn't have thought Google would penalize that. But I take your point about waiting for the articles to be no longer indexed.
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Ok it seems you are a bit concerned about the quality of the articles. If this is so, why you are planning to move the articles to the new websites? I do not think mentioning the articles have been moved to the new website would not exonerate your sins. In fact, the new website may carry the legacy of poor content. Do not do such thing.
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Why would you want to redirect them to another page on the old site and explain it to the visitors. You can do that on the existing article page on the old site itself. I would advise against it because if you put a link to the new pages on the new site then Google will crawl the new site pages and associate your new site with the old one. You'd be better of deleting those articles off the old site and then adding them on the new site when they are no longer indexed by Google.
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